🍃Sunday Speaks 16/9/24

🍃Sunday Speaks 16/9/24

🍃Sunday Speaks

16 September 2024

Monday edition, bc honestly I just kinda forgot what day it was, and woke up today like, ahh yes, glorious Sunday morning 🌞

So,.. Check-in with me, how's you? How was your week and what are you looking forward to? 🪼 How's you floating?


Stunning clear fresh day here on Gubbi Gubbi Country. Birbs are farting and carrying on. Had a random down pour last night and fuck we privileged! Fucking hell! Almost full moon 🎑


On my mind right now is INCLUSION & ACCOMMODATIONS 

So I hate that this is a thing but it's unavoidable for me right now so I'ma ramble. My community is online. My connection with friends is via messaging and online. And I'm OK with that.

Every time I share Permaqueers Regen course with in fb Permaculture groups there is a mass of beige repling negative shit.

Recently in the Queensland Permaculture group, I gave it straight back.

I was going too far for my acceptance of how I govern myself, but I wasn't nearly as feral I would have been if on my personal. I reported poor comments to admin. The admin available shut off comments then removed the post. Admin are volunteers, and some arnt as woke as others, all deserve respect and appreciation for governing the space.

A wk later I share it again and absolutely nothing. Not one comment. So refreshing. And then yesterday some clown is like "you've lost me". Like mate, do you need a fuckin map?

At this point the groups founding admin has thrown up a post that is a honey pot to all these nasty beigians. The post basically says Permaculture is intrinsically woke, and so it should be. They go on to reply to comments with great articulation and arnt being reactive. It is a great conversation that needs to be had.

Every person commenting appears to white, and middle aged. Not shocked, this is fb on a wknd after all. Also noting I am ND queer white and middle aged.

I think there has been one fem presenting person who's comment asked what woke means. Their replies were neutral and joyful. Not denouncing woke. The rest are male appearing.

Here's the thing, of a group of so many people. It may look like the majority are anti woke. But if you count the actual number of people commenting, and the likes of those comments, etc. It's such a small number compared to the size of the group.


PAY ATTENTION TO WHO IS LIKING COMMENTS! Do they run business? Liking a comment is saying you agree with that statement. Is this a business,bor a person account that runs a business, that business a safe space and someone your going to support moving forward? Or are they just putting on a polite persona?

I've got a shit house memory, so I screenshot everything all the time! Say a shit thing once to me, and untill you come out being actively evolved, I will not support that business.

They all basically come around to the same points, that they feel the need to express they are transphobic/homophobic and ground from a hetronormative place of white male privilege.

Race doesn't get much of mention in their comments, but does still come up in hints, and they draw lines at making accommodations. We're at a place now where being racist is shamed out of public conversation, but it's still there between the lines.

Being Gay doesn't get a huge mention, but the word Queer actively triggers the keyboard cowards. Homophobia is much like racism in the way it's generally shameful to show in most public conversations, but they say it anyway. 


The returning patterns of making multiple other point to try draw in debate on those points, is a basic strategy that they are probably unaware their even doing. They bring up other points wanting to debate that (instead of the point made in the op) because that gives them a sense of control. One person even cryed out that the OP (original poster) won't reply to each point, and they then went on to delete a comment that HAD been replied to, and then repost almost the exact same comment as a reply to another comment. The comment contains a question to draw in reply, but it's a back handed closed question that is more of a 'I'm so smart'.

It's extreamly disappointing that more diverse voices arnt adding to the conversation, but it's sign of how many of us deal with these closed hearted people - don't feed them. Ignore them. This is labour, and we ain't getting paid.

This post is not trying to push anything on anyone, or change their minds. It's a flag to the rest of us. It's a statement, that this group isn't just a gardening group, it's Permaculture and Permaculture has and will always be political, and inclusive. It's also an opportunity to block who you need to.

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